For me, I already own a 14 x 6.5 brass snare so I wanted a NOB 14 x 8...thanks to some awesome recommendations on here I pursued a Worldmax as they make the shells for Ludwig. Unfortunately there was a long wait so after a couple of failed attempts at a WorldMax I went for the Black Magic...a fantastic drum.That's a looker too. They're not prohibitively expensive, either. I'll check them both out, thank you! I was really hoping for an actual brass drum, not nickel black coated, etc. Ugh why all the black brass?!