Anyone have any notable things to say about any cheap in-ears (like KZ, for example)? Thanks!
My hearing is worth more than $100. My ears are a lifetime ownership.I would recommend starting at at least $100 for IEMs.
Why aren't you posting angry text at Bermuda then? I guess I'm a softer target.Since comments that don't agree with you constitute "attacks", I'll apologize up front for beating the living heck out of you in the following:
.....but only worth $250??
but I'm sure we'll find out with the last word.
Thank you for bringing this up! I forgot that, while I was doing the research for CIEMs, I took notice of the db reduction/sound isolation difference. The CIEMs I was looking at (+ a couple of the other brands/offerings) were rated at around -20 db to -25db, with the Shure UIEMs being rated between -29 db and -37db.Believe it or not, custom molds fall into the -25 to -30 dB reduction range which is right in line with proper fitting, non-custom IEM's (at -25).
This too. This entire debate is moot if you turn it up too high. But, theoretically: the more noise reduction, the less you have to push them.Regardless, I think we all can agree that any time you are pumping sound into your ears, whether it be through custom or non-custom IEM's, or isolation phones w/ speakers, all of the protection afforded by them goes right out the window if the volume knob goes up too high.
Ok then, if it makes you happy, @bermuda , you're wrong! There. That's as "angry" as I'm going to get.
I agree with you here. This is where I think there is a disconnect. I, nor anyone else, has ever stated the UIEMs are equivalent to CIEMs. Not sure why this continues to be brought up as a counterargument as it was never introduced as primary argument.I'm not arguing that they are equivalent, just that they are effective (again if they fit properly <that is the key). Yes, custom molded IEM's are better than off the shelf, but only by a small-ish margin. Certainly not enough to say that one "needs" custom molds when other options are available.