Saw the movie “Count me in”

have never heard of it...givne the track record of other drum movies, my hopes are not very high....or, it can't be any worse than Whiplash or Drumline the movie....nothign is worse than those 2
 
I think there was a long thread discussion about it a year or two or three ago here? Is that the documentary that portrays drummers as sorta the animals of the music world? Cindy Blackman picking out a kit for a performance?
 
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Rattlin' Bones said:
I think there was a long thread discussion about it a year or two or three ago here? Is that the documentary that portrays drummers as sorta the animals of the music world? Cindy Blackman picking out a kit for a performance?
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It was Jess Bowen picking out a kit. But yeah, everyone was doing some sort of Animal impersonation and displayed an almost Disney-vomit enthusiasm for all things drumming, and of course they had to poo-poo on the drum machine phase of the 80s. And let’s not talk about the serious pioneers that came before these people that we all really idolize. Drumming is just the best thing in the world.

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So, does the forum collectively like or dislike the movie?

I mean sure, it’s a little on the positive side, but playing drums is pretty fun as a hobby. I imagine it would be fun if it was your job, and in the case a of a select few, even more fun when you are paid really really well.
 
Sully151 said:
So, does the forum collectively like or dislike the movie?

I mean sure, it’s a little on the positive side, but playing drums is pretty fun as a hobby. I imagine it would be fun if it was your job, and in the case a of a select few, even more fun when you are paid really really well.
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So if the forum likes it, you’ll like it?
 
I liked it. The section where Stephen Perkins dissects Keith Moon’s drum parts on Who Are You was particularly entertaining.

It was far from being the entire history of kit drumming, but there was nothing that made me want to turn it off.

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Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX said:
have never heard of it...givne the track record of other drum movies, my hopes are not very high....or, it can't be any worse than Whiplash or Drumline the movie....nothign is worse than those 2
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Drumline was a terrible movie, I totally agree. Incredibly messy playing, cheesy drama, etc.

But Whiplash was a great movie IMHO. I had issues with his tensed-up and chaotic technique, of course, but the story and the acting are top tier. Plus it sparked a lot of fun memes, which is always good.

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Watched it once and thought exactly what Bo said.

I don't know what it is with any film/documentary about drumming. They miss the mark big time.

Whiplash is the worst film ever made. If only all of life's problems could be solved by throwing chairs at people and be able to get away with it.
 
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"Count Me In" is not available on Netflix here in Switzerland. But I saw: "Fred Armisen - Standup for Drummers" here - quite amusing...

Bernhard
 
Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX said:
have never heard of it...givne the track record of other drum movies, my hopes are not very high....or, it can't be any worse than Whiplash or Drumline the movie....nothign is worse than those 2
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WHAT!? I freaking LOVED Whiplash. Saw it 2x in theaters and both times I saw something I've never seen before or since: a standing ovation at the end.
 
Haven't seen any of those mentioned. Drumline has been on regular cable several times but there isn't anything in the trailers of it that ever interested me.
 
J.D. said:
WHAT!? I freaking LOVED Whiplash. Saw it 2x in theaters and both times I saw something I've never seen before or since: a standing ovation at the end.
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Surely those people (members of the standing ovation) never studied Jazz Drums at a University/College, or any other subject at a University in the USA.

Where have you heard that a teacher can hit his students and insult them and authorities/parents/students won't expel him?

The topics that are discussed are not at the level of University Jazz students, much less of members of what is supposed to be the main big band of the school, they are things for beginners and people who are not musicians.

These are not the only absurdities of the film but probably the most significants I remember.
 
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Sully151 said:
So, does the forum collectively like or dislike the movie?

I mean sure, it’s a little on the positive side, but playing drums is pretty fun as a hobby. I imagine it would be fun if it was your job, and in the case a of a select few, even more fun when you are paid really really well.
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See Bo's thread about Venue rant...

It would be really fun to be the drummer for a national act either a band or drumming for an artist that tours with a large crew, that way, you the drummer also have a crew that takes care of setup and sound check, and you basically mostly worry about playing and getting paid. I call that "Living the dream".
 
J.D. said:
WHAT!? I freaking LOVED Whiplash. Saw it 2x in theaters and both times I saw something I've never seen before or since: a standing ovation at the end.
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the standing ovation was probably from a room mostly full of non-drummers reacting to the over the top story line and acting, not because it portrayed any reality in the world of the evolution of jazz drumming.

granted, in the 50's-90's, there were probably TONS of teachers who approached musical evolution that way, but they were definitely going about it the wrong way. Do we all really think Elvin, Art Blakey, Krupa, and Buddy went through what the main character did in their evolution to greatness?

for me Whiplash is to drumming like The Mighty Ducks is to hockey...Hollywoodized story barely grounded in reality

when I get new students, often times, the parents will ask : "can you make then play like the guy in Drumline/Whiplash? And I reply with "absolutely not. That would be a waste of our time. I will make them play like real drummers, and it will be a more enriching experience"

I feel like as an educator, those types of movies set things 10 years back. They do more damage than good
 
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granted, in the 50's-90's, there were probably TONS of teachers who approached musical evolution that way, but they were definitely going about it the wrong way. Do we all really think Elvin, Art Blakey, Krupa, and Buddy went through what the main character did in their evolution to greatness?
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I really don´t understand your answer, Elvin, Blakey , Kruppa and Buddy didn´t go to Jazz University, so they don´t have any relation with the movie´s subject which is about JAZZ at University
 
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Alex Sanguinetti said:
Surely those people (members of the standing ovation) never studied Jazz Drums at a University/College, or any other subject at a University in the USA.

Where have you heard that a teacher can hit his students and insult them and authorities/parents/students won't expel him?

The topics that are discussed are not at the level of University Jazz students, much less of members of what is supposed to be the main big band of the school, they are things for beginners and people who are not musicians.

These are not the only absurdities of the film but probably the most significants I remember.
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during the 50's-2000's, it was not uncommon to hear of band directors/music educators who did teach like that. The drum corps world in that era was known to be especially "militaristic" when it came to motivation. when I was in marching band, we got yelled at; were made to do push ups; I had an instructor who would throw rocks at us when we ticked; we were not allowed to have water if we messed up....the same director threw a music stand at the clarinets one time in concert band...he would put Tabasco sauce on the mouthpieces of brass players who would make mistakes....

it was definitely a different time, and o Whiplash definitely latched on to THAT type of instructor - because that sells tickets - as opposed to a Mr. Hollands Opus kind of teacher (even though that movie did well after it left the theaters)
 
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