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Al Strange

Well-known member
Europeans in their migrations changed all the lands they migrated too (Australia, Africa, India, North and South America, etc)-but to be fair if it wasn't them it would be somebody else. Like the US is nothing like pre-colonization. Mentioned here is the loss of the Great Plains prairie grasses due to John Deere inventing the steel plow so they could plow the deep fertile soils of the tall grasses (that pic with deep roots shows why LOL) then later mechanized farming after WWI and that was the end of the prairies (mostly still some tall grasses and short grass areas)-then growing wheat (rather than corn like natives) it took more land to produce a decent crop. Since farming and drought has depleted parts of Ogallala aquifer (under the Great Plains) the risk of another dust bowl is a real concern. I think it's ironic early colonist thought the prairies desert so kept going west to Oregon, which had less fertile soil. We harvested all the pristine forest in US and sold the wood globally and then often replaced with European species-we Europeanized the US. But before Europeans indigenous natives changed the landscape also-they used fire to burn the grasses to prevent succession with woody plants (the plains offered food in bison and farming grasses and grains), grew specific grasses and grains, etc. Humans have been introducing non-indigenous species for thousands of years-just look how Rome changed the world with plants and animals. There have been trade routes all of recorded history exporting plants, animals, and diseases too. War and slavery all recorded history. Nothing is the same from 60,000 years ago when a warming climate allowed humans to occupy new lands and mold the environment. My understanding of Australia is it has been occupied by humans for 60-80K years but only small populations lived in certain areas along Murray River -so most was pristine with little human intervention? It's a unique ecosystem but also doomed for change because change is inevitable. The US was already occupied and already experienced human intervention-so more intervention was inevitable. It's gene flow-and you can argue yes it may lead to extinction of some species but it can also develop into a new ecosystem (have more genetic potential to address climate changes) and the diversity from gene flow and hybridization can make new species over time. It's what life has done over and over again with big and small extinction events sometimes natural but the last 60k human driven. And yes the humans of today are nothing like 60k ago-we have all kept evolving too. The same gene pool population seeded Europe, China, and North and South America during migration and all evolved with their environments, however gene flow/migration has kept introducing admixtures to all ancestries. Like Haiti has more African ancestry (it still has some admixture) than Africa of today because the huge amount of admixture of other ancestries in all African populations now. It's what humans have always done like an alien species changing an environment to their liking on sci-fi movies. All recorded history humans have waged war against each other, enslaved each other, and migrated to new lands-always in competition, seen as a threat, and bringing their own influence to introduce elsewhere. We still are doing that as 9-14 million people still live in slavery in Africa. (it was legally banned but has never stopped). Heck we are talking about going and doing it to Mars. Poor planet is doomed LOL. Humans are vile creatures-we do a terrible job trying to act otherwise but that isn't our true nature. Blessed be the meek they shall inherit the earth-nope not by a long shot. We go boldly where no man has gone before-and mess it all up. In my best James T, Kirk voice. ROFL.
I’m just gonna pop on a fresh pot of coffee before I read the full narrative @GetAgrippa !! 😂 (y)
 

GetAgrippa

Platinum Member
Sorry it just vomits out into a long diatribe as I reflect on all of I’ve read over decades. It has all changed too. But humans are vile creatures- we prove it everyday on here as a microcosm.
 

Al Strange

Well-known member
Humans are vile creatures-we do a terrible job trying to act otherwise but that isn't our true nature. Blessed be the meek they shall inherit the earth-nope not by a long shot. We go boldly where no man has gone before-and mess it all up.
If that’s not an advert for change I don’t know what is! :unsure: (y) :) Ahhhh, a nice cup of Joe and a @GetAgrippa post to ponder…other than smashing the life out of my Prems, does life get better than this?😂(y)
 

Ransan

Senior Member
Europeans in their migrations changed all the lands they migrated too (Australia, Africa, India, North and South America, etc)-but to be fair if it wasn't them it would be somebody else. Like the US is nothing like pre-colonization. Mentioned here is the loss of the Great Plains prairie grasses due to John Deere inventing the steel plow so they could plow the deep fertile soils of the tall grasses (that pic with deep roots shows why LOL) then later mechanized farming after WWI and that was the end of the prairies (mostly still some tall grasses and short grass areas)-then growing wheat (rather than corn like natives) it took more land to produce a decent crop. Since farming and drought has depleted parts of Ogallala aquifer (under the Great Plains) the risk of another dust bowl is a real concern. I think it's ironic early colonist thought the prairies desert so kept going west to Oregon, which had less fertile soil. We harvested all the pristine forest in US and sold the wood globally and then often replaced with European species-we Europeanized the US. But before Europeans indigenous natives changed the landscape also-they used fire to burn the grasses to prevent succession with woody plants (the plains offered food in bison and farming grasses and grains), grew specific grasses and grains, etc. Humans have been introducing non-indigenous species for thousands of years-just look how Rome changed the world with plants and animals.
Word!
Being from the Panhandle of Texas - it is taught to us, that the dustbowl effect of The Great Depression was caused by over farming practices - livelihoods becoming dirt farmers or moving entirely out of the region.

Nebraska-Texas Corridor, East Colorado, NE New Mexico primarily, were under stressful farming practices that exacerbated through industrious attempts.
Now day's you can drive for miles and see maybe a few trees or so.
That is also why you see Russian Thistle or tumbleweeds heavily infesting these areas, they were introduced from Eurasia by flax farmers who migrated to SD, being a hearty weed, eventually with no competitors; they've invasively thrived since...
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As for the animal hide try, I've never tried, not opposed, but not compelled to go out and try neither -
Somewhere down the line, and even rural parts now, all of our ancestors used skins in someway because it's what they had.
 

organworthyplayer337

Well-known member
Apparently someone doesn't have the patience to accept I just prefer to play Remo or Evans. And won't accept kangaroo hide drum heads aren't made from animals that died from natural causes. :sneaky:
I haven't remotely felt like I fell out with anyone. As discussions go this has been pretty tame.
Some people are too sensitive for the truth and/or difference in opinion. Once you approach people with tact and respect, and they perceive it as an attack or “pReAcHiNg”; you already know the type of person you’re dealing with. Nothing you can do about that
 

Thin Shell

Well-known member
You can still see that there are ignored posts at the bottom of the page.
So you dislike this chap so much that you ignored him so you wouldn't have to see or reply to his posts. Clicked "show ignored posts" just so you could reply to him and continue to post in a thread that you said you were done with?
So I am going to leave the discussion, put you on ignore, and request get you do the same with me. I’m so sorry it’s come to this. Have a nice life.

Why not do what you said you would do. We don't need sophomoric drama.



See, this is why I asked you to drop it. I don’t appreciate being talked down to. Who does? Why don’t you take a hint and walk away from the argument? No good will come of trying to continue the argument. I’m telling you
These were great words of wisdom. Take your own advice and use it on yourself.

By the way, I notice that you are not a mod, or the owner of this site, so what gives you the right to tell another member to drop it? Asking for a friend.
 

Thin Shell

Well-known member
Europeans in their migrations changed all the lands they migrated too (Australia, Africa, India, North and South America, etc)-but to be fair if it wasn't them it would be somebody else. Like the US is nothing like pre-colonization. Mentioned here is the loss of the Great Plains prairie grasses due to John Deere inventing the steel plow so they could plow the deep fertile soils of the tall grasses (that pic with deep roots shows why LOL) then later mechanized farming after WWI and that was the end of the prairies (mostly still some tall grasses and short grass areas)-then growing wheat (rather than corn like natives) it took more land to produce a decent crop. Since farming and drought has depleted parts of Ogallala aquifer (under the Great Plains) the risk of another dust bowl is a real concern. I think it's ironic early colonist thought the prairies desert so kept going west to Oregon, which had less fertile soil. We harvested all the pristine forest in US and sold the wood globally and then often replaced with European species-we Europeanized the US. But before Europeans indigenous natives changed the landscape also-they used fire to burn the grasses to prevent succession with woody plants (the plains offered food in bison and farming grasses and grains), grew specific grasses and grains, etc. Humans have been introducing non-indigenous species for thousands of years-just look how Rome changed the world with plants and animals. There have been trade routes all of recorded history exporting plants, animals, and diseases too. War and slavery all recorded history. Nothing is the same from 60,000 years ago when a warming climate allowed humans to occupy new lands and mold the environment. My understanding of Australia is it has been occupied by humans for 60-80K years but only small populations lived in certain areas along Murray River -so most was pristine with little human intervention? It's a unique ecosystem but also doomed for change because change is inevitable. The US was already occupied and already experienced human intervention-so more intervention was inevitable. It's gene flow-and you can argue yes it may lead to extinction of some species but it can also develop into a new ecosystem (have more genetic potential to address climate changes) and the diversity from gene flow and hybridization can make new species over time. It's what life has done over and over again with big and small extinction events sometimes natural but the last 60k human driven. And yes the humans of today are nothing like 60k ago-we have all kept evolving too. The same gene pool population seeded Europe, China, and North and South America during migration and all evolved with their environments, however gene flow/migration has kept introducing admixtures to all ancestries. Like Haiti has more African ancestry (it still has some admixture) than Africa of today because the huge amount of admixture of other ancestries in all African populations now. It's what humans have always done like an alien species changing an environment to their liking on sci-fi movies. All recorded history humans have waged war against each other, enslaved each other, and migrated to new lands-always in competition, seen as a threat, and bringing their own influence to introduce elsewhere. We still are doing that as 9-14 million people still live in slavery in Africa. (it was legally banned but has never stopped). Heck we are talking about going and doing it to Mars. Poor planet is doomed LOL. Humans are vile creatures-we do a terrible job trying to act otherwise but that isn't our true nature. Blessed be the meek they shall inherit the earth-nope not by a long shot. We go boldly where no man has gone before-and mess it all up. In my best James T, Kirk voice. ROFL.
Wow. You're really getting good with that Word Salad Shooter... ;)
 

Push pull stroke

Platinum Member
So you dislike this chap so much that you ignored him so you wouldn't have to see or reply to his posts. Clicked "show ignored posts" just so you could reply to him and continue to post in a thread that you said you were done with?


Why not do what you said you would do. We don't need sophomoric drama.




These were great words of wisdom. Take your own advice and use it on yourself.

By the way, I notice that you are not a mod, or the owner of this site, so what gives you the right to tell another member to drop it? Asking for a friend.

Feel free to stop playing junior mod yourself, BRO😂😂😂😂
 

paradiddle pete

Platinum Member
Just watched a vid of the culling of over populated starving roo's being shot and slaughtered on the back of a roo shooters ute! With their plump healthy bodies , healthy fur and some with pouches full of Joeys.. Now some would say that a species that has lasted millions of years would not populate whilst facing starvation , obviously not... these dumb animals need our help in keeping their numbers in check.. Right?
 
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