Help with my kick drum

riddle

Member
hey guys, im using a tama swingstar kit its sounds good although its consedered low end. anyway i have a 6 inch hole on my front head. and ive put in blanket and stuff in it to muffle to get the nice thud. the problem is i want it to have a louder, bigger sound. i just tuned the batter head tighter today and its gone boomy, im alright with that but anyways to make it more punchy, and less boomy? lol. i dont mind if my bass is loudest in my playing i would actually want that big and loud solid sound. BOOM.
 

phil_qc

Senior Member
Evans EMAD 1 or 2 batter side
Evans EMAD reso front side
Nothing in the drum... Should makes the sound you
are looking for...

Phil.
 

riddle

Member
i'm not changing the heads that soon..
and ive had nothing in them before the sound was total horrible boom-MYYYYYYYYYY. (i emphasize on YYYYY)
thanks though i would prefer remo if i really would want to change them
 

basscase

Senior Member
Aquarian Superkick II has a baffle ring attached to it. Install and then take everything else out of your kick. I also use a Remo Powerstroke on the front with the same type of baffle ring and a 4inch hole. The Superkick II is the best $30 you will ever spend! Turn it right and you get a huge thump that cuts through everything!
 

basscase

Senior Member
The only thing Remo has close to the Auarian SuperKick II is the The Clear Powerstroke®3 which features a thin underlay at the outer edge of the head to subtly dampen unwanted overtones. This underlay is just plastic and not foam like the Aquarians, so I don't think you could get away with an empty bass drum. I have only used this head on the reso side.
 

Jsk36

Senior Member
Remo clear powerstroke 3 on both sides with little to no blankets or pillows.

It makes a good sound.
 

drumtechdad

Gold Member
This concept seems hard to get across: muffled = softer. That's why they call it muffling.

With a big port and lots of muffling you won't get as much volume as no port/no muffling. You can get "thud" or you can get "boom" but it's difficult to get both.

If you play out miked--or if you just want this sound in your practice room--you can go for "thud" and the PA will make the drum loud enough. If you play out unmiked, though, you really need some sutain ("boooooom") for the bass drum to be heard.

We play mostly unmiked, so I use (as Jsk36 above does) PS3s front and rear, no port and nothing in the drum. For miked I use a PS3 reso with a small port and an Evans EQ pad on the batter, and possibly a small rolled-up hand towel resting against the reso.

To get a little more volume and boom from your setup without getting new heads, try this: First, take everything out of the drum. Then starting with the reso, bring it up very gradually from finger tight, no more than a 1/4 turn at a time. Strike the head in the middle at each stop. At first it will sound flappy/papery. Keep going until you get a real tone, one with some bottom-end and sustain. Stop there. This is above the "just above wrinkle" stage, but not by much. Then tune the batter the same way, except make it just a little tighter. (The more you tighten the batter the more you reduce sustain and increase attack.)

This will give you maximum boom with what you've got. Now's the time to add muffling, just bear in mind if you throw blankets and pillows in there you'll reduce both volume and boom. You might want to start small, with small rolled-up towels resting against the heads.

Just as an aside, the SKII is to me a head that is overly muffled. For my purposes it simply isn't loud enough. Other folks have other opinions, so YMMV.
 
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