Being told what to play

All I can say is, being asked to play a certain way is different from being told what to play. When I have someone who is "over-collaborating", I'll say something.

 
Spreggy said:
All I can say is, being asked to play a certain way is different from being told what to play. When I have someone who is "over-collaborating", I'll say something.

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Put that quote out of The Big lebowski in a sampler and trigger it when it happens in rehersal.
 
eddypierce said:
Did the band leader think that's what Ringo did? If so, he's wrong--on the original recording, Ringo played with (two) sticks, and then overdubbed a track with brushes (or vice versa). If I had to play it live, I'd play it with two sticks as well.
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Yes, that's what he thought Ringo did, then he watched that video of the Japanese drummer playing with a stick and a brush. He did things like this almost the whole time we played music together, and I finally got fed up. I didn't dislike this guy. I've gone to see his new band and we got along fine, but I would never work with him again.
 
BobC said:
Yes, that's what he thought Ringo did, then he watched that video of the Japanese drummer playing with a stick and a brush. He did things like this almost the whole time we played music together, and I finally got fed up. I didn't dislike this guy. I've gone to see his new band and we got along fine, but I would never work with him again.
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Paul doesn’t even make Abe Jr do that!
 
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Spreggy said:
All I can say is, being asked to play a certain way is different from being told what to play. When I have someone who is "over-collaborating", I'll say something.

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A Big Lebowski T shirt is in my regular rotation of shirts that I wear. A Lemmy picture shirt is my favorite, though.
 
If it's normally a drumless song, do you think maybe he is pausing or dragging notes emotively like the record and your solid time is killing his "jazz feel"?

For me, everything I do in my current band is vetted and criticized, changed, returned to the way it was, changed back etc

It's good because it has me trying new things.
 
Duck Tape said:
If it's normally a drumless song, do you think maybe he is pausing or dragging notes emotively like the record and your solid time is killing his "jazz feel"?

For me, everything I do in my current band is vetted and criticized, changed, returned to the way it was, changed back etc

It's good because it has me trying new things.
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I had a bass player tell me I needed to “drive the beat” and as a pocket player, I really didn’t know what he was talking about.
To me, “driving the beat” means “rushing” as you’ll be a bit ahead.
He said if the backbeat comes down on time, the audience will feel the band “dragging”.

I still have NO clue what he’s talking about.

In rock, my job is to be on time. When I play jazz, I’ll push and pull the time a bit.
 
Cmdr. Ross said:
I had a bass player tell me I needed to “drive the beat” and as a pocket player, I really didn’t know what he was talking about.
To me, “driving the beat” means “rushing” as you’ll be a bit ahead.
He said if the backbeat comes down on time, the audience will feel the band “dragging”.

I still have NO clue what he’s talking about.

In rock, my job is to be on time. When I play jazz, I’ll push and pull the time a bit.
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I’ve had blues and jazz drummers tell me the same for bass. It actually works as long as the drummers don’t try to get ahead of me.
 
Duck Tape said:
If it's normally a drumless song, do you think maybe he is pausing or dragging notes emotively like the record and your solid time is killing his "jazz feel"?
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I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Ill try and look past his manner in the future

If my concerns about aproach keep pinging ill have to have a quiet word with the band leader
 
KenDoken said:
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Ill try and look past his manner in the future

If my concerns about aproach keep pinging ill have to have a quiet word with the band leader
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I agree...I think Duck Tape is onto something...

Maybe try all brushes/circular type time keeping and pulse with him?
 
It happens often. My take is, if he's the soloist, you want to back him up as is his preference. In my band, the trumpeter grew tired of how worked up I got during his solos. He was an Art Farmer type trumpeter, and I was pushing him into playing outside of his personal style. When someone is soloing, you are there to make him not only sound good, but to back up his personal style. Sorry, I know how it can be unsettling. But what you do as a drummer shades the entire feel of a band and its music.
 
Frank Godiva said:
When the guitar player takes 15 minutes to tell the drummer how to play an intro to a 3 minute song

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I’m gonna set up a YouTube channel called “Al Drums Strange” and then proceed to upload a guitar tutorial for Van Halen’s ‘Hot for Teacher’, a song I can’t actually play…🙈:ROFLMAO:(y)
 
Al Strange said:
I’m gonna set up a YouTube channel called “Al Drums Strange” and then proceed to upload a guitar tutorial for Van Halen’s ‘Hot for Teacher’, a song I can’t actually play…🙈:ROFLMAO:(y)
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Oh man….. those poor Sonor drums…. the big reveal at about 5:30…. 6 mark on is just comic….

Again just the intro from Mr Golden Ears who manages to make a how to video but never actually plays it right… not even once… nope never…

Like a child alone in the woods…..

That dog don’t hunt

 
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