No, it certainly isn't. Five seconds is a burst however. In the metal world, that means nothing. Anyone can force out a handful of singles for a few seconds. You have to be able to do it for long periods of time. Going slow wont get you there. To be able to actually play something other than a burst of 32nds at 100bpm, you have to practice those 32nds at 100bpm for some time. This stuff doesnt just magically happen.32nds at 100 bpm isn't slow.
Best advice yetThe bad ass metal drummers we all want to be like, they practice what they need to do to. That is the secret, practice what you want to be able to do. Hell it's not even a secret.
Do you even understand the point of this thread? It's about building speed and endurance with hands and feet to be a better metal drummer. No one said anything about not joining a band. Except you that is.Oh, okay so you just aren't supposed to participate in metal or play in a metal band until you pass some test that someone on the internet decides on. Got it.
Do you even understand the point of this thread? It's about building speed and endurance with hands and feet to be a better metal drummer. No one said anything about not joining a band. Except you that is.
If you dont push your speed, you wont get any faster. Does that make more sense?
Please go back and find where I said this.You're bending on negativism. A drummer doesn't qualify if you can't blah-blah-blah.
Please go back and find where I said this.
If you cant play a song, how do you expect to play it without practicing what you cant do?
Tell you what. I'm 30 years into this. I've been down the "how do I go faster longer" road. You can either try what I've suggested or not. I'm not going to argue with you.
We are talking about metal. In context it is not fast.You said 5 seconds of 32nds at 100 npm isn't fast. Yeah, it kinda is to the normal drummer.
Yes they can with practice. That is the point.You said anyone can do it. No, they cant.
The idea of practicing slow to go fast doesnt really work here. It gets you the motions, but not the speed or control at speed.
Maybe so. I am not a teacher for this exact reason.I think what people - in MANY of the threads where this type of practice is suggested - forget to mention that you start slow, and then slowly speed up to a threshold tempo where your muscles give out. You keep doing this and then the muscles get stronger/more agile, and that develops speed.
and you might already have put this together, but it just sparked my mind reading this thread that a lot of people skip explaining that part of the process
Maybe so. I am not a teacher for this exact reason.
I'm the person who will tell you to start the car but forgets to tell you to insert the key. I know it should be a given, but apparently isnt.
I do stand by you cant go fast if you dont work on it however.
Look at guys such as David Diepold, even though he plays at insane speeds he mostly looks relaxed, I said mostly because there are a couple of times I have seen him struggle a little which proves he is indeed human. The point being playing relaxed is achieved after training, if you play tense, you will never last long and you might get injured...Hail forum.
I've been restarting my practice, playing relaxed, staying loose, and keeping on the click.
My max speeds are at 150 bpm or so, for both double kick and blast beats. I have no idea how I could muscle out faster speeds earlier, but it happened a year or two back. Currently working on the movements, trying to incorporate fingers, and keeping a loose hold on the sticks. I've had numerous breaks from practice due to not focusing on this 100%.
I suppose I'll work on relaxed playing and practice like it, adding one bpm to exercises when feeling confident in a practice session. I also need to pick up new songs (Velvet Revolver is cool!) and listen to more music.
Now I've been doing 20 minutes of finger control (strength exercise, 8th notes with one finger only, switching fingers every eight strokes, 60bpm), 5 to 15 minutes of double kick practice, doing stints at 115 to 135 bpm at a time. Really simple routine, still aiming at playing hardcore, metalcore and death metal eventually.