geoff-7877
New Member
HI people!
this is my first post here. been playing for 34 years and recently started a new heavy band. My preferred snare sound has always been higher tension, thick pop. Think Abe Cunningham. I played a piccolo like everyone else in the 90s and then transitioned to a 12X7 and then fell in love with 13X7 drums. I had a Remo Falam marching head on the piccolo, which is totally ridiculous but I was in my 20s and started using Evans coated G1s on the 12X7. Started to move back towards thicker heads on the 13X7 with and emperor X.
I had an opportunity to get a 14X8 3mm cast brass shell and built the drum out with super beefy tube lugs and die cast hoops. I also started off with an emperor X on this drum which did not work. i pretty much maxed out on tension and the pitch was way too low for my liking. im an Evans guy but have tried several options from Remo as well, but all on the thicker, “heavy hitter” options.
Clearly the 14X8 monster is going to have a much different tuning range then the previously mentioned drums, but what I have discovered is how these thicker 2 ply heads have such a lower tone to them, which seems to be kind of the opposite from a lot of the applications that I’ve heard them in. I did have an ambassador snare side with an Evans Hybrid coated but no body. Changed to the Evans heavyweight and it was a great improvement. Changed the snare side to an Evans 500 and although it gave me more of that thick pop, the drum gained an undesirable St Anger ring And still somewhat limited in higher pitch tunings. Switched to the heavyweight dry which somehow made the ring worse! I muffled the crap out of it and achieved a good sound but it became boxy.
I do play really hard but have never had issues with breaking heads. I had a new coated ambassador laying around and decided to try it out. Undesirable ring almost completely went away while maintaining the core sound from the drum. Thinking of throwing either a G1 or UV1 coated on there to see how it behaves. My 12X7 came with an ambassador and the G1 to my ears was a massive improvement. There are SO many head options at $20 plus each, makes wild experimentation very expensive so I thought going back to basics might give a better direction.
Anyway, sorry for the long post. Just curious if anyone else with a drum similar to mine has experienced anything similar. The drum sounds great but I think that I can get more out of it. And if you made it through the novel, thank you.
Geoff
this is my first post here. been playing for 34 years and recently started a new heavy band. My preferred snare sound has always been higher tension, thick pop. Think Abe Cunningham. I played a piccolo like everyone else in the 90s and then transitioned to a 12X7 and then fell in love with 13X7 drums. I had a Remo Falam marching head on the piccolo, which is totally ridiculous but I was in my 20s and started using Evans coated G1s on the 12X7. Started to move back towards thicker heads on the 13X7 with and emperor X.
I had an opportunity to get a 14X8 3mm cast brass shell and built the drum out with super beefy tube lugs and die cast hoops. I also started off with an emperor X on this drum which did not work. i pretty much maxed out on tension and the pitch was way too low for my liking. im an Evans guy but have tried several options from Remo as well, but all on the thicker, “heavy hitter” options.
Clearly the 14X8 monster is going to have a much different tuning range then the previously mentioned drums, but what I have discovered is how these thicker 2 ply heads have such a lower tone to them, which seems to be kind of the opposite from a lot of the applications that I’ve heard them in. I did have an ambassador snare side with an Evans Hybrid coated but no body. Changed to the Evans heavyweight and it was a great improvement. Changed the snare side to an Evans 500 and although it gave me more of that thick pop, the drum gained an undesirable St Anger ring And still somewhat limited in higher pitch tunings. Switched to the heavyweight dry which somehow made the ring worse! I muffled the crap out of it and achieved a good sound but it became boxy.
I do play really hard but have never had issues with breaking heads. I had a new coated ambassador laying around and decided to try it out. Undesirable ring almost completely went away while maintaining the core sound from the drum. Thinking of throwing either a G1 or UV1 coated on there to see how it behaves. My 12X7 came with an ambassador and the G1 to my ears was a massive improvement. There are SO many head options at $20 plus each, makes wild experimentation very expensive so I thought going back to basics might give a better direction.
Anyway, sorry for the long post. Just curious if anyone else with a drum similar to mine has experienced anything similar. The drum sounds great but I think that I can get more out of it. And if you made it through the novel, thank you.
Geoff