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?It landed in a Private location in Idaho
?It landed in a Private location in Idaho
I know this post is a while ago, but when you decide to switch to A Customs the 20" Medium ride is one workhorse of a cymbal. Played one at GC.I hear you, man I've had entire sets of Paiste 2002s and Signatures. I actually like Zildjian S's more than Paiste 2002s, but Paiste Signatures are VERY hard to beat. Zildjian either hasn't cracked that code yet or doesn't want to fully invest itself in the pursuit of doing so. We'll see what Zildjian's future efforts produce.
In the meantime, I'm enjoying S's quite a bit. Every now and then, I try to find something I dislike about them, but I never really uncover anything that inspires me to kick them to the curb.. My Mastersound hi-hats are excellent, and my Thin Crashes are bright without being obtrusive. There's an underlying mellowness about them that's been quite surprising. The bell of my Medium Ride is nice, and the bow is acceptable, though I wouldn't say it's my favorite ride ever. It sustains a bit too long for my taste.
I usually play a set of cymbals for three to five years, sell them, and replace them with a brand-new set. I'm in my second year with S's. Should I desire a change, A Customs are the most probable destination for me. I'd like to stick with Zildjian, and A Customs have that glassy sound I like so much. Their hammering, lathing, and finish also make them similar to S's.
I know this post is a while ago, but when you decide to switch to A Customs the 20" Medium ride is one workhorse of a cymbal. Played one at GC.
I think they also make a box set with this cymbal in it tooIf I ever go the A Custom route, the 20" medium ride will definitely be part of my setup. Regardless of the line of cymbals I'm playing, my ride is always a 20" medium.
I think they also make a box set with this cymbal in it too
I know this post is a while ago, but when you decide to switch to A Customs the 20" Medium ride is one workhorse of a cymbal. Played one at GC.
The current 2002 20” ride is a shimmery beauty for pop and r&b ballads etc. I’ve used it for recording and received compliments on how it sat it the mix. I also have an old 18” black label I love for rock/pop. But now I’m working through some jazz books and I can’t make either of them work in that context. Maybe it’s my lack of experience, but the sparkly sound plus bright wash confuses and distracts me. I got one of those 18” uptown rides and it’s perfect, allowing me to hear the pattern clearly without a lot of ringing out everywhere. I’m assuming the alloys have something to do with it, along with the weights.
I hate to be a Philistine, but...I just put a little gaff tape on the underside of any ride that is too ringy for me. It’s a way cheaper solution, and you can pretty precisely control the sound by choosing where on the cymbal to put it, and how much tape.
The current 2002 20” ride is a shimmery beauty for pop and r&b ballads etc. I’ve used it for recording and received compliments on how it sat it the mix. I also have an old 18” black label I love for rock/pop. But now I’m working through some jazz books and I can’t make either of them work in that context. Maybe it’s my lack of experience, but the sparkly sound plus bright wash confuses and distracts me. I got one of those 18” uptown rides and it’s perfect, allowing me to hear the pattern clearly without a lot of ringing out everywhere. I’m assuming the alloys have something to do with it, along with the weights.
I LOVE my uptown ride.
Yeah I just got it a few weeks ago and it’s kinda perfect. Also I really like 18s in general. It’s a great size for playing alone in the prac space, at home etc. And often for recording too (see Dark Side of the Moon! )
I already use a little tape. You can keep adding more until it becomes more like hitting a dinner spoon than what you’d like to hear in a jazz ride, but you can’t lower the pitch or darken the tone.
Also I do a lot of recording and it’s nice to have some options in rides. In that situation I find you need to be careful not to use as much tape as you might think you’d want to hear sitting at the kit because cymbal wash can disappear enroute to the mics and soon you end up with only stick sounds on the track.
Billy Joel was also a fan from what I remember... ?I LOVE my uptown ride.
Shout out to all the drummers out there who bravely play cymbals that sound good to their ears
But that makes the argument false. A self fulfilling prophecy is argumentative fallacy and is false because what is prophetised allows the wanted effect to come to fruition. Example: B20 cymbals are better, and I have one, and it's better than my B8. This is only true for me, not everyone, so the claim that B20 is better is not a valid argument.but I would suggest that the idea of B20 being better is totally valid, as it's self-fulfilling.
But that makes the argument false. A self fulfilling prophecy is argumentative fallacy and is false because what is prophetised allows the wanted effect to come to fruition. Example: B20 cymbals are better, and I have one, and it's better than my B8. This is only true for me, not everyone, so the claim that B20 is better is not a valid argument.