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Old 11-20-2008, 05:48 PM
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Hi guys.

Apologies for the terrible thread title but I didnt know what else to call it. If there is a term thats used (i.e the way that 'bonzo kit' is used for well...the bonzo kit!) then please let me know so I can change it :)

But yeah I'm hopefully going to be setting up my new kit (when I get it!) in this way as I love the comfort of it and ease of playing that I feel it will give me.

If no-one has any idea what im talking about then i've attached a picture to show what i'm getting at.

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Old 11-20-2008, 05:55 PM
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Something like this...

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Old 11-20-2008, 05:59 PM
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Fantastic! Thanks mind_drummer.

Just one question, with the rack toms, are they on the same stand as the cymbal stand? or is there two stands? Im worried about doing this because of weight etc

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Old 11-20-2008, 06:06 PM
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Fantastic! Thanks mind_drummer.

Just one question, with the rack toms, are they on the same stand as the cymbal stand? or is there two stands? Im worried about doing this because of weight etc

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I used the bass drum tom mount that attach both tom and clamp it to a cymbal stand with wide spreaded legs...
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:11 PM
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Okay thanks.

Do you also have the Splash attached to that stand? Does it ever wobble?

Is there any chance you can take a picture of the back of the stand for me?

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:43 AM
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:48 AM
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Does this count?

That's a great looking kit!

I am not completely versed in all things DW....so I have to ask:

That kick drum resonant "drum workshop" logo : was that factory or aftermarket? Is that a newer or older logo/font?
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When I set up my DWs as a 5- or 6-piece, I put the 2 rack toms to my left and a ride to my right. Man, I'm getting a lot of mileage from this pic...
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. Man, I'm getting a lot of mileage from this pic...
It's worthy of being an album liner notes photo. The only thing missing: If it was grainy black and white, and there were beer bottles and a couple guitars strewn around the room.

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There was a line that DW built for a little while. When they stopped some guy bought up a bunch of the bass drum reso heads. i got two of them for $20.00 if I remember correctly.

That is a Collectors series not a Drum Workshop series kit.

The workshop series was the predecessor to the Pacific line. They were made in the same factory as the Collectors series. they used the oval lugs like the Pacific kits now use and Keller shells. They are great kits. I see them every once in a while on ebay
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:10 AM
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I have the racks mounted on a cymbal stand using one of those 3 way clamps.
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I have the racks mounted on a cymbal stand using one of those 3 way clamps.
That's a nice setup. I like how you manage to avoid the huge gap between the rack and floor toms.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:23 AM
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I guess this kind of qualifies:

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Old 11-21-2008, 06:39 AM
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:04 AM
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there is already a thread for this.


created by me, but continue posting,i love this setup,i wanna see more!
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:19 AM
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Here's my contribution. I have really been enjoying this setup lately. And I do actually use the 10" tom hanging off of the hi hat stand.
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heres two semi different set ups for two different bands i played in. the kit with more cymbals is a yamaha kit and the other is a pearl kit.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:40 AM
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Wow! Beautiful kits! Here's my very humble contribution (I've got it set up a little differently now, it's an older pic)

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I would be willing to bet a lot of us that set up this way were or are double bass drum players. I also notice the tendency to point the bass drum out to the side like a double bass drummer and not straight like a traditional single bass drum player.

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I would be willing to bet a lot of us that set up this way were or are double bass drum players. I also notice the tendency to point the bass drum out to the side like a double bass drummer and not straight like a traditional single bass drum player.

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True. I'd love a second bass drum.
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The only way to go if you have two rack toms, as far as I'm concerned. Here are my last two kits:



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I tinkered with many setup tweaks until I found this to be the most ergonomic. I'll be sticking with this for quite a while.

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Wow! You've gotta love all these kits, I think there's just something about this set-up that looks and feels really comfortable.

Thanks for all the replies guys, its certainly helped me imagine how i'll set my new kit up.

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I would be willing to bet a lot of us that set up this way were or are double bass drum players. I also notice the tendency to point the bass drum out to the side like a double bass drummer and not straight like a traditional single bass drum player.

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I was looking at Phil Rudds set up again.

He uses a very forward hi hat position. This it the best advantage to the bass drum over to the right. It allows right hand playing on the hats without crossing the hands or arms.
Check out Phils set up and physical approach.
I find that unless I have three toms up front, then I need to go for the forward hi hat position as it offers to me a better ergonomics and ability to hold a AC/DC type pocket.

Take a good look at his hi-hat placement. Clearly this would accomadate two up front.

I noticed this on the SARS video. His hands never cross.
This makes a better pocket IMHO.
For me it does.
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I was looking at Phil Rudds set up again.

He uses a very forward hi hat position. This it the best advantage to the bass drum over to the right. It allows right hand playing on the hats without crossing the hands or arms.
Check out Phils set up and physical approach.
I find that unless I have three toms up front, then I need to go for the forward hi hat position as it offers to me a better ergonomics and ability to hold a AC/DC type pocket.

Take a good look at his hi-hat placement. Clearly this would accomadate two up front.

I noticed this on the SARS video. His hands never cross.
This makes a better pocket IMHO.
For me it does.
I love it.
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Man, his setup is beautiful!
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:21 AM
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Wicked, is it not????
I am not sure you could fit two on the left of the bass drum,
but you could fit two up front, regular kit on the bass drum,
and still take a very forward hihat position.
This allows a left hand lift and fall that has no interrelationship to the right sticking.
For me, this whole set up makes my pocket loads better.

Give it a shot, if your into that kind of drumming.
Take a look at Phils work on the SARS video, if you can.
They had lots of good time on him.
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I tinkered with many setup tweaks until I found this to be the most ergonomic. I'll be sticking with this for quite a while.
Those Twenties looks beautiful. I picked up an 18" Crash the other day and I"m very impressed with it. It has a great full, lush tone and integrates wonderfully with my 16" + 18" Full Crashes and 19" DE Crash. I'd really like to see the Twenty line extended next year.

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I think the reason this tom tom configuration is so popular is because it's so ergonomic. I've always found the traditional mid tom position a bit awkward balance-wise. I was playing a 4 piece configuration for a long time because it seemed more comfortable to me going from 1st rack to floor than to the 2nd rack. So when I wanted to go back to having 2 racks I decided to have them both to the left, right in front of my snare. This position offers a more "rounded" movement between each tom for me, and while it took a while to get the configuration perfect now I that I have I feel it greatly enhances my playing.
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Thanks for all the pictures guys.

Does anyone have any more pictures of their kits from the front, in particular focusing on how the two toms are held?

I'm trying to decide how I want my two toms held myself so any help would be greatful, in terms of pictures.

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The idea for me to move the toms off the kick came to me from having started on a 4 piece. I always liked to have the ride in close. Part of it is a vanity thing too, it looks bigger and I like to keep the toms lower and tilted less because I like the way it looks. Sorry about the quality of the first pic.
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2 up 2 down one of my favorite set-ups
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