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Old 04-12-2008, 09:45 PM
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I nabbed this sweet thing, brand new, on eBay a couple of weeks ago. You wouldn't believe the deal I got on it. There's a matching 14x5 snare but it's not pictured, I use the Black Beauty with it instead (pictured).

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...and the 6.5x14 Black Beauty

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I switch between the special dry ride and the 22" K. Con. Hi Bell Dry ride...but so far I'm LOVING the special dry. It's unique in that it's not as dry as they typically come, due to there not being much "grit" left on the surface - it's actually quite cutting!
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:55 PM
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I love this drum set man its really awesome. I especially like the John Riley book as well, great book for developing your jazz independence.
how much did you pay if ya don't mind me asking>?
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:04 PM
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Very nice, I love the vinatge look.
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Sweeeeet!

Yeah... you're going to have to come clean with the price so that we can all hate you! :-)

Did the Black Beauty come with it, or "just" the matching wood snare.

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Old 04-12-2008, 10:25 PM
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What a nice, clean looking Outfit.
I especially like that finish and those natural hoops, a nice change of pace from the usual black hoops w/inlays on wrapped Kits..........

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Old 04-12-2008, 11:04 PM
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Very, very, very nice...

Love it ! It's a very lovely classic kit.

Now you said you got a deal but we want to know "the deal" then we will tell you if it was one :-)
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:27 AM
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Thanks guys - I love the inlays too, LVDC...it's a nice touch. I also like that they took the care to use rubber gaskets under the lugs - you don't usually see that on wrapped shells. DW doesn't even do that! The quality of the construction is otta sight - Ludwig continues to impress me.

Would you believe I only paid a grand for the 4pc. kit, brand spankin' new?

volvoguy - I bought the BB snare a few months ago when I picked up my first Ludwig kit.

Mikey - That's actually the first few pages of the Riley bop book printed off, sitting in front of the 4-way Independence book. If it's not obvious, I'm spending some time on independence. ;)
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:10 AM
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Great. Please tell all about how it tunes up and sounds. How is the hardware? I am considering one of these, so I want to know all I can about them. Also what is your white kits sizes?
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:35 AM
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Beautiful kit! I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the pink, but man, I don't even care. That thing is gorgeous.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:38 AM
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Great. Please tell all about how it tunes up and sounds. How is the hardware? I am considering one of these, so I want to know all I can about them. Also what is your white kits sizes?
http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33677

- This white kit is actually for sale (3pc, no snare), it's on eBay right now. I plan to replace it with another classic maple kit, with a 20" kick - I definitely prefer it having finally gotten one.

I can't say enough about the tuning and the sound. To me, this is just how drums should sound - period. They're big, fat, warm...it's everything I wanted. When I got the white kit I still had my DW collector's kit. I picked up the 13" tom and tapped it a few times and thought to myself "uh oh...". Ha! I'm entirely serious...I was disappointed in the d-dubs after playing the Luds for a month or so.

They tune easy...and as I continue to pull out the "sweet spot" I'm only more impressed with the sound. They truly sound like much bigger drums. The kick could easily pass for a 22" - and I'm not exaggerating. I don't know what they do when they make these things but they got them the mojo!
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:39 AM
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Beautiful kit! I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the pink, but man, I don't even care. That thing is gorgeous.
Actually it's "Champagne Sparkle" - a classic finish that has been popular for decades...especially in jazz/bop. I'm sure LVDC would give us some history on it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:42 AM
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Yes, but whatever you call it, it will still be pink. This isn't a bad thing...just pink, that's all. Although it is certainly a beautiful pink :)
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:10 AM
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It's not often that I comment on kits on this forum, but your little Ludwig just exudes class and excellence. A beautiful little kit, I wish I had one just like it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:20 AM
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How do you like that K Custom ride? I've got the same one and I love it.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:06 AM
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Riley is the man really compete book. That first set of exercises are great. do them will all your limbs while playing the ride pattern. Its great stuff!
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Thanks guys - I love the inlays too, LVDC...it's a nice touch. I also like that they took the care to use rubber gaskets under the lugs - you don't usually see that on wrapped shells. DW doesn't even do that! The quality of the construction is otta sight - Ludwig continues to impress me.

Would you believe I only paid a grand for the 4pc. kit, brand spankin' new?

volvoguy - I bought the BB snare a few months ago when I picked up my first Ludwig kit.

Mikey - That's actually the first few pages of the Riley bop book printed off, sitting in front of the 4-way Independence book. If it's not obvious, I'm spending some time on independence. ;)
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:08 AM
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Beautiful. I love the natural inlaid hoops.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:33 PM
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Champagne Sparkle is my absolute favourite wrap. And on an LCM 4 piece with a virgin kick... fantastic.

Do you prefer the smaller sizes of this to your white kit?
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:59 PM
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That is really sweet, Vin. Now I'm confused about your current drum collection? Are the dubs gone? both of them?
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Actually it's "Champagne Sparkle" - a classic finish that has been popular for decades...especially in jazz/bop. I'm sure LVDC would give us some history on it.
Back in the day Ludwig called this wrap "Sparkling Pink Champagne," considered one of their Pearl Finish's even though most think of this type of wrap as a Sparkle Finish, it was, and continues to be, a very popular color especially in the Vintage Market........

Zambizzi, if you would have purchased that Kit back in the 1960's you would have called it a Downbeat.
I have one from 1965 but mine is "Sparkling Red Pearl."

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I love it.

I think I`ve never had the chance to check out those Ludwig kits, yet. Unfortunatly, since those drums are considered as legend and so unique sounding.

Your home studio is awesome, as well. I`d love to live right there! =)
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:29 PM
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Very Very nice looks very comfortable!
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:34 PM
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I don't usually like the vintage look but damn, thats gorgeous.
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Back in the day Ludwig called this wrap "Sparkling Pink Champagne," considered one of their Pearl Finish's even though most think of this type of wrap as a Sparkle Finish, it was, and continues to be, a very popular color especially in the Vintage Market........

Zambizzi, if you would have purchased that Kit back in the 1960's you would have called it a Downbeat.
I have one from 1965 but mine is "Sparkling Red Pearl."
Thanks for that LVDC! I'm a bit of a history buff so this was really interesting to me. It makes me wonder what the proliferation of Paiste cymbals was during Ludwig's business relationship with them, in the past? How many recordings from the 60's, etc. are we hearing Paiste cymbals on when we might have assumed Zildjian? Beatles?

Karl - I have a few recordings but the quality is rough...I really don't have the mic'ing skills yet to get the sound that I'd like, on recording. The worst being the kick, it sounds nothing like it should (and does in reality) on recording. I'll sift through what I've got and post something here shortly.

Ozzy - Definitely, the 20" kick is every bit as powerful as a 22", IMO. It took a little getting used to, with the foot...but it's more responsive than a bigger drum. I don't feel I've lost anything there at all, and the 14x14 floor tom is tuned low enough to sound very deep. These are my gig drums, they're *very* easy to move and setup.

Maytridy - This special dry ride is unique - it's really not that dry due to the coating on top being almost non-existent. Most special drys have that thick, raw, unfinished surface...this one plays and sound more like a K Custom Dark ride...but with the extra hammering. I love it!

Abe - I'm confused too. I keep rotating drums in-and-out. I sold the DW kits a while back. The used one that I had, which was blue, never sounded great to me. It was a little "dead". I replaced it with the white Luds and was blown away. I also started playing a 4pc at that point and felt I was wasting some unused drums w/ my black DW kit...and, well, it just couldn't compare to the Luds after playing them for a while. So I sold those, paid some bills, and picked up this "downbeat" kit on eBay for a song. Now I've got two Luds. To add to the confusion, I'm selling the white Luds because I can't picture playing a 22" kick again and it's not being used. I'll replace it with another classic maple, from Shane (Just Drums), now that he's a Ludwig dealer. I like to have two, one that doesn't move at home, and one for playing out.

I've probably surpassed fourstrings on number of kits in the shortest timespan. ;)
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I've probably surpassed fourstrings on number of kits in the shortest timespan. ;)
I don't know, I'm pretty tough to beat :-) So this is #3 in what time span?

I'm at #5 in a 12 month time span roughly. But this is it. You'll see. :-D
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:47 PM
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I don't know, I'm pretty tough to beat :-) So this is #3 in what time span?

I'm at #5 in a 12 month time span roughly. But this is it. You'll see. :-D
sure sure... :)

Holy testicle Tuesday, man! Yeah I'm on #4 in 18 mo. Five, actually, if you count the Pearl Forum I had before I bought my DW kit last year...but I wasn't really playing that much, at that point and had just started lessons........AND it was a real turd, anyone would have replaced THAT kit.
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Beautiful set Zambizzi. That is a cool little set that will be easy to lug around for gigs. If your going to get another Ludwig set from Shane, I would go for the new Legacy series.
BTW, DW does use rubber gaskets on their lugs now.
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Beautiful set Zambizzi. That is a cool little set that will be easy to lug around for gigs. If your going to get another Ludwig set from Shane, I would go for the new Legacy series.
BTW, DW does use rubber gaskets on their lugs now.
I would, if they weren't so much more expensive. I'm very happy w/ the classic maple line and they're quite affordable.

I don't think DW puts rubber gaskets on the wrap finishes - mine was made in 2006 and it didn't have them. The non-wrap finishes have always had gaskets, so far as I know. I just found it interesting that these had them and they're wrapped.
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I would, if they weren't so much more expensive. I'm very happy w/ the classic maple line and they're quite affordable.

I don't think DW puts rubber gaskets on the wrap finishes - mine was made in 2006 and it didn't have them. The non-wrap finishes have always had gaskets, so far as I know. I just found it interesting that these had them and they're wrapped.
Just how much more are the Legacy's? The classic maples are nice though. I didn't know about the DW gasket thing. All my DW's are older. That is kind of odd though.
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I don't know, I'm pretty tough to beat :-) So this is #3 in what time span?

I'm at #5 in a 12 month time span roughly. But this is it. You'll see. :-D
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Holy Awesomeness!

That reminds me, I need to get a pic of my kit.

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Man, you guys sound like Paul McCartney & Mick Jagger discussing ex-wives!
We were talking about women....oh...oh wait. You thought it was about drums?
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Just how much more are the Legacy's? The classic maples are nice though. I didn't know about the DW gasket thing. All my DW's are older. That is kind of odd though.
I'm guessing (and this is based on what I've heard and seen, which isn't much) - about 40% more. Shane could better answer that if you PM'd him on pricing...but I'm pretty sure they're significantly more costly. I believe that's because of the extra labor that goes into building them, which was outlined pretty well in an issue of MD a few months ago.
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Very nice set! I look forward to having a go on it.
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There may be nothing funnier to a drummer than the absolutely unplayable setups in catalog pictures. Pretty high on the Unintentional Comedy Scale.

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There may be nothing funnier to a drummer than the absolutely unplayable setups in catalog pictures. Pretty high on the Unintentional Comedy Scale.
Unfortunately for me, this was the only pic I had to base my initial set-up with, when I first started playing. It took me a long time, and some unconventional surgery, to be able to hit the floor tom.
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Amazing kit dude! I NEED a BOP KIT!!!
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Unfortunately for me, this was the only pic I had to base my initial set-up with, when I first started playing. It took me a long time, and some unconventional surgery, to be able to hit the floor tom.
See, this is what I'm talking about.

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Very nice set! I look forward to having a go on it.
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