jondrumming
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Oh jeez what am I talking about, the bass drum IS 22x18! YES okay I'm sold
Oh jeez what am I talking about, the bass drum IS 22x18! YES okay I'm sold
Don't TAMA make 9pc double kick superstars?
right then. now i have another half-dilemma: what cymbals would you guys recommend to go with stage customs? im hoping to be able to get:
10" splash
14" hi hats
16" crash
15" OR 17" crash
18" crash
20" ride
18"-20" china
for under $1000. the hhx super set meets some of that criteria, but is there a different line of cymbals that have similar sound as the hhx's, but for a cheaper price? i noticed that aax's werent very much cheaper, neither were a customs.
anyone know anything about the sabian xs20s or apx's?
What would you all say to this?
Drums
Mapex M Birch 6-Piece Drum Set
22" x 18" bass drum
10" x 8" free rack tom
12" x 9" rack tom
13" x 10" rack tom
14" x 11" mounted tom
16" x 16" floor tom
5-1/2" x 14" snare
Mapex M Birch "Go Large" Bass Drum + Floor Tom Add-on Pack
22" x 18": Bass Drum
18" x 16" Floor Tom
Cymbals
10" Sabian B8 Pro Splash
14" Sabian APX Solid Hi Hats
16" Sabian XS20 Medium Thin Crash
18" Sabian XS20 Medium Thin Crash
18" Sabian B8 Pro Chinese
20" Sabian APX Solid Ride
Hardware
Tama Iron Cobra Powerglide Single (2)
Gibraltar Ultra-Adjust No-Leg Hi Hat Stand
Lol I can't believe myself, I've changed practically EVERYTHING about the potential kit I was in the US about a week ago, at a Guitar Center, and I had a chance to play a Tama Rockstar, which is kinda an entry-level kit. I sat down and played for a few minutes, and WOW! It sounded like some of the higher end Tamas I've played, and when I closed my eyes I actually couldn't tell the difference!
That's why, as of now, I will potentially purchase the following (keep in mind that I am not very far away from this ballpark, as I have just sold practically all my video games, since I never played them):
Drums:
Tama Rockstar 8-Piece Shell Pack
2x 22x18 Bass Drums
8x8 Tom
10x8 Tom
12x9 Tom
14x14 Floor Tom
16x16 Floor Tom
14x5.5 Snare
Cymbals:
Sabian Xs20 10" Splash
Zildjian ZBT 13" Hi Hats
Sabian Xs20 14" Hi Hats
Sabian Xs20 16" Thin Crash
Sabian Xs20 18" Thin Crash
Sabian Xs20 20" Ride
Paiste Alpha 20" Full Ride
Hardware:
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Single Pedal x2
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Tama Iron Cobra Clutch
Tama Hi Hat to Bass Drum Attachment Clamp
Pearl DR-80 Rack
Of course, some of the non-essentials, i.e. Cobra Clutch, 13" Hi Hats, will be purchased after the big purchase.
If you're wondering about why I'm buying two rides for the kit, a friend of mine has a Pearl Masterworks kit, I believe an 8 or 9 piece, and he has both an A Custom and an HHX ride on his kit. I played it and tried out both rides, and realized just how many doors having two rides opens! For example, the Alpha Full Ride will be good for rock and metal primarily, because it is a heavier ride, while the Xs20 Ride will be good for a more laidback sound, great for jazz etc.
So, am I missing anything/ what do you think?
Hmm, true about the cymbals.
I've revised it again, this time hopefully will be the last time, although I think most of you will agree this is a better setup than before:
Tama Superstar Hyperdrive SK 6-Piece Shell Pack
22" x 18" kick drum
10" x 6-1/2" and 12" x 7" toms
12" x 14" and 14" x 16" floor toms
14" x 5-1/2" snare drum
Pork Pie Pig Lite Acrylic Snare
Sabian AA Super Set
14" Hi Hats
20" Medium Ride
14" Crash
16" Crash
18" Crash
10" Splash
Wuhan China 16"
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Tama Roadpro Boom Stands
Evans Coated EC2s and EMAD
What do you think?
FINAL DECISION. What do you think:
My budget is around $2500, my parents are willing to pay a substantial portion of that figure if I do exceptionally on my finals, which I probably will, as I am working my ass off thinking that if I do well, I will have enough to buy:
Drums:
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive SL Custom (Dark Desert Burst) 6-Piece
22" x 18" bass drum
10" x 6-1/2" and 12" x 7" rack toms
12" x 14" and 14" x 16" floor toms
5.5" x 14" snare drum
PDP Piccolo Steel 3.5" x 13" Snare Drum
(in the future I will be adding another 22" x 18" bass drum, as well as 8" and 13" rack toms, not sure about the depths on those.)
Cymbals:
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 14" Hi Hats
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 21" Ride
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 16" Crash
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 17" Crash
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 10" Splash
Wuhan 18" China
Hardware:
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Tama Roadpro Boom Stand x4 (Ride, 2 Crashes, China)
Tama Cymbal Arm with Clamp (for splash)
Roc 'n Soc Nitro Throne
Personally, I could not be happier with this future set-up, I cannot get it out of my head.
I've included a picture, for reference, of the kit with my DTXTreme incorporated to create a very cool hybrid set-up, which I think would go really well with hip-hop, funk, and metal playing. Also, if I ever wanted to trigger my bass drum(s), I'd have a brain at the ready.
Mm im starting to have second thoughts about the Superstars, they're great, but... i've made the decision once and for all that I do in fact LOVE the feel of two bass drums, as well as the consistency. argh im going in circles again anyway: considering i have about a $2600 budget, I'm probably going to settle on the ddrum Dominion AMX 8-piece shell pack, with 24" bass drums.
Now, for cymbals, I've made some modifications:
For hardware:
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Single (2)
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Gibraltar Double Bass Curved Rack
For cymbals:
Sabian AAX Performance Pack (20" Stage Ride, 14" Hi Hats, 16" AAXplosion Crash, 18" AAXplosion Crash)
Sabian 17" AAXplosion Crash
Sabian 10" AAX Splash
Sabian 13" Xs20 Hi Hats
Wuhan 18" China
MAKE UP YOUR MIND. We help you with one thing and the next SECOND you want us to waste our time telling you about something else.
Really dude, just make up your mind....
Tama Superstar Hyperdrive SK 6-Piece Shell Pack
22" x 18" kick drum
10" x 6-1/2" and 12" x 7" toms
12" x 14" and 14" x 16" floor toms
14" x 5-1/2" snare drum
Pork Pie Pig Lite Acrylic Snare
Sabian AA Super Set
14" Hi Hats
20" Medium Ride
14" Crash
16" Crash
18" Crash
10" Splash
Wuhan China 16"
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Tama Roadpro Boom Stands
Evans Coated EC2s and EMAD
Drums:
Tama Superstar Hyper-Drive SL Custom (Dark Desert Burst) 6-Piece
22" x 18" bass drum
10" x 6-1/2" and 12" x 7" rack toms
12" x 14" and 14" x 16" floor toms
5.5" x 14" snare drum
PDP Piccolo Steel 3.5" x 13" Snare Drum
(in the future I will be adding another 22" x 18" bass drum, as well as 8" and 13" rack toms, not sure about the depths on those.)
Cymbals:
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 14" Hi Hats
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 21" Ride
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 16" Crash
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 17" Crash
Zildjian A Custom ReZo 10" Splash
Wuhan 18" China
Hardware:
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Double Pedal
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Tama Roadpro Boom Stand x4 (Ride, 2 Crashes, China)
Tama Cymbal Arm with Clamp (for splash)
Roc 'n Soc Nitro Throne
For drums:
ddrum Dominion AMX 8-piece shell pack, with 24" bass drums
For hardware:
Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide Single (2)
Tama Iron Cobra Lever Glide Hi Hat Stand
Gibraltar Double Bass Curved Rack
For cymbals:
Sabian AAX Performance Pack (20" Stage Ride, 14" Hi Hats, 16" AAXplosion Crash, 18" AAXplosion Crash)
Sabian 17" AAXplosion Crash
Sabian 10" AAX Splash
Sabian 13" Xs20 Hi Hats
Wuhan 18" China
I know, I know, you're right. I looked back at the Superstars, and I'm going to go with those. I'm also going to go with AAXs. Sorry for all the mind changing, this is my first legit acoustic kit (i've been rockin a DTXTreme lately, my first acoustic kit sucked so much i dont even want to talk about t), and I don't want to regret buying anything, so I've been weighing my options so much that I over-changed my mind.
My personal choice would be the superstars also and I plan on buying them this year. We'll see though
Yeah, I think I'm going to go with Superstar SL Customs (6 piece with another 8" tom, maybe another 18x22 bass), Sabian AAX cymbals, Trick Dominator pedals, Tama Iron Cobra hi hat stand, Evans coated EC2s and EMAD.
sound good?
also, should i get a rack? or stands...
A rack would be VERY expensive. Are you going to be gigging? If so, then no, don't get the rack.
Sounds good to me.
That's exactly what I wanted to do .Get the 6 piece then add another 8" tom just to have it available if I wanted to use it.
Well, you're part right about the expensive rack, but when you think about all the cymbal stands and arms, for a good quality boom stand, that's about $70-$80 for one. If I needed 4 or 5 of them, that's already around $300-$400. A rack is around that price, is it not? Like the pearl ICON and the Gibraltar Double bass rack.
as for the gigging aspect, probably not that much. so since its staying stationary, it might be a better idea, eh? nothing will be falling over or moving...
Well, you're part right about the expensive rack, but when you think about all the cymbal stands and arms, for a good quality boom stand, that's about $70-$80 for one. If I needed 4 or 5 of them, that's already around $300-$400. A rack is around that price, is it not? Like the pearl ICON and the Gibraltar Double bass rack.
as for the gigging aspect, probably not that much. so since its staying stationary, it might be a better idea, eh? nothing will be falling over or moving...
Well, then yeah, I'd probably get the rack.