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Old 12-10-2014, 12:50 AM
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Gavin,

Your wikipedia page sent me racing to YouTube to hear your work on 'Belighted' by IamtheMorning. I was just wondering, as an average estimate, how long does it take to record your parts and send them back out to be mixed/mastered with the rest of the band? I can only imagine the 100's of variables that need to be factored in (personal free time, recording time, putting aside other projects etc).

Great work by the way, I always find inspiration in just about everything I hear you play. No matter how discouragingly difficult it may be for me to even air-drum it.

Thanks :D
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Old 12-10-2014, 10:52 AM
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Hi keep it simple

have you ever tried monitoring bass guitar through your tactile monitoring seat? I've tried it a few times, even when sufficient audible monitoring has been available. It's surprisingly effective :)


I can't say i have. I'll bear it mind though. Thanks.

Hi Dustondrums

what equipment do you usually take with you to your clinics (except mixing console, Macbook, Porter & Davies and drumsticks) - cymbals/pedals/stands (or clamps) etc. ?


I usually can't take cymbals, pedals or stands with me. As nearly all the clinics I do involve a flight at some point - it comes down to the cost of excess baggage in the end.

Hi Venimal

Have you ever had a chance to play a Sonor Ascent drum kit? I'm in the market for a new kit, Right now I have a Pearl Vision Birch kit I got from The Drum Pad in Chicago. So, I've wanted a Sonor kit ever since I saw the prolite kit introduction, though the price tag has me at a pause. However, hearing the Ascent series online and reading what people have said about it has got me interested. The question I'm asking myself is, save a wait a few months, or get an Ascent with an extra floor tom next month. It will be more for live playing then recording, though I do hope that'll change later next year.

I played one the other day and it was very good. Not in the class of the "Made In Germany" drums though. If budget is a factor maybe consider finding a second hand DeLight (which are almost exactly the same as the ProLite range).

Hi euphoric_anomaly

Your wikipedia page sent me racing to YouTube to hear your work on 'Belighted' by IamtheMorning. I was just wondering, as an average estimate, how long does it take to record your parts and send them back out to be mixed/mastered with the rest of the band? I can only imagine the 100's of variables that need to be factored in (personal free time, recording time, putting aside other projects etc).

It depends. If the tracks I have to play to are all in good shape I can do a song (or even two) a day and send back a mix of the drums. Sometimes the songs are easy 4 minute pop songs and other times they are 17 minute 'prog' epics. 90% of folks just want me to do whatever I feel is right for the music. Some folks already have a quite accurate idea of what they want on the song. Sometimes they're on the other side of the world so it can take time for them to answer and respond.

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Old 12-10-2014, 12:58 PM
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Hi!

I am learning Bonnie The Cat at school right now from your Rhythmic Composition book. Is it possible to get a version of the song without the drums? This would be very helpful and fun to play along to.
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:07 PM
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Hi SimonBrekke

sorry but it's not available.

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Old 12-10-2014, 03:11 PM
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I can't say i have. I'll bear it mind though. Thanks.


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Just a thought :) I found it particularly useful on one gig where mirroring some big dynamic changes in bass guitar parts with my bass drum dynamic was challenging.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:00 PM
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Hello Gavin!
Could you reveal which kind of shells you use on your SQ2? Is it Maple, Birch...? Vintage, Medium or Heavy? Or do you use different shells for big/small toms and BD? (I couldn't find it on your equipment-page)
I wish you great x-mas!
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:21 AM
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Hi Venimal

Have you ever had a chance to play a Sonor Ascent drum kit? I'm in the market for a new kit, Right now I have a Pearl Vision Birch kit I got from The Drum Pad in Chicago. So, I've wanted a Sonor kit ever since I saw the prolite kit introduction, though the price tag has me at a pause. However, hearing the Ascent series online and reading what people have said about it has got me interested. The question I'm asking myself is, save a wait a few months, or get an Ascent with an extra floor tom next month. It will be more for live playing then recording, though I do hope that'll change later next year.

I played one the other day and it was very good. Not in the class of the "Made In Germany" drums though. If budget is a factor maybe consider finding a second hand DeLight (which are almost exactly the same as the ProLite range).

Gavin
Thanks for the advice. I do have lots of time to think about it. Only thing that has me down on the Prolite kits now is, the finishes don't really grab me at the moment. The Tribal Red is an exception, but they don't seem to sell it anymore. Though, the creme white does look really nice, as well as the ebony stripes. Though, and I did put this idea in my head... Ascent shell pack with a prolite snare, or protean snare. I'll be honest, you do a really good job in selling that one on the videos I've seen on it. Not to mention the rave reviews.

Also, while searching youtube videos on Sonor kits, I found this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7U0nfT8w4A

You look VERY tiny in this video! Really cool to see!

Cheers! And thanks again! Next time you come to the US, if you swing by Houston, San Antonio or Austin for a clinic or a show, I'll be there!
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:36 PM
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Wishing Gavin Harrison and fellow drummers on the forum a great holiday season and I'm looking forward to "absorbing" :-) more inspirational drumming and music in 2015. Cheers everyone. :-)

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Old 12-29-2014, 08:59 AM
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Hello Gavin,

Do you currently, or have you ever waxed the bearing edges of your Sonor drums? If so, why did you start and what has been your conclusion? If not, why haven't you and/or what do you think of applying wax to the bearing edges?

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Old 01-03-2015, 11:20 AM
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Hi Florsky

Could you reveal which kind of shells you use on your SQ2? Is it Maple, Birch...? Vintage, Medium or Heavy? Or do you use different shells for big/small toms and BD? (I couldn't find it on your equipment-page)

On my most recent 'blue tribal' set they're all maple 'medium' shells except the bass drum which is 'heavy' shell. My previous set had 'thin' rack toms - 'medium' floor toms and 'heavy bass drum. I can't honestly hear much difference. I've played quite a few of the 'vintage' shells too (which are the thinest of all the Sonor shells) and they sounded great too. I still have an older Designer kit that I really like the sound of - so that's why I wanted to move back to 'medium' shells.


Hi formula428

Do you currently, or have you ever waxed the bearing edges of your Sonor drums? If so, why did you start and what has been your conclusion? If not, why haven't you and/or what do you think of applying wax to the bearing edges?

I don't currently apply wax to any of the bearing edges. I did go through a period of applying wax to the snare drum edge - but I can't tell you that I heard or felt a noticable difference.

Cheers and happy New Year to you all !!!!
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:16 AM
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Hi Gavin
This is more of a AH HA! moment being shared rather than a direct question.
I was listening to 5/4 from iamthemorning and noticed something that caught my ear. Between 2:54-3:33, I noticed that you played the downbeat (snare) starting on beat 4. Next bar it was on 5, then a bar without snare followed by the next bar starting with the snare on the 1 and so forth. I counted out 16 bars.

Thanks for the brain exercise. Belighted is an amazing album by the way, can't stop listening to it.

Eric

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Old 01-07-2015, 03:14 PM
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Hi euphoric_anomaly

I was listening to 5/4 from iamthemorning and noticed something that caught my ear. Between 2:54-3:33, I noticed that you played the downbeat (snare) starting on beat 4. Next bar it was on 5, then a bar without snare followed by the next bar starting with the snare on the 1 and so forth. I counted out 16 bars.

Despite the song being called "5/4" it's not all in 5/4 time signature. The passage that you picked out is actually in 6. No wonder it felt strange to you if you were counting 5 throughout it!! I have in past (and probably will in the future) mis-heard something and felt the rhythm in a certain way. Especially some downbeats have illuded me on certain recordings. Such is the perception of rhythm (and what led to my study of the Rhythmic Illusion).

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Old 01-15-2015, 04:31 AM
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Marco Minnemann posted that he will not be performing with Steven Wilson during the US/Canada leg of the Hand. Cannot. Erase. tour. Will you be performing with Steven?
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:24 PM
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Hi sal_tpa

no I won't be performing with Steve on his next tour.

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Hey Gavin! Hope all is well. Firstly, I just wanted to thank you for being my biggest musical inspiration and devoting your time here to answer all these questions. Just a quick question, what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Thanks for your time,

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Old 01-19-2015, 02:38 AM
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Hey Gavin! Hope all is well. Firstly, I just wanted to thank you for being my biggest musical inspiration and devoting your time here to answer all these questions. Just a quick question, what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Thanks for your time,

Quinn
Actually, to hopscotch on LBS's question: Out of all the stuff you've been doing the last few years (05Ric, PT, King Crimson), what have been your favorite songs? Any old gems pop up that you "rediscovered" ("Oh man, I forgot how fun that song is to play" or "Wow, that has that tricky bit I'd forgotten")?
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:21 PM
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The drummer that will be filling in for Marco is Craig Blundell.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:55 PM
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Hi Lightbulb_Sun

what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Hatesong was always good fun - Buying New Soul, Even Less (we played the long unedited version a couple of times) and many others.

Hi alparrott

Out of all the stuff you've been doing the last few years (05Ric, PT, King Crimson), what have been your favorite songs? Any old gems pop up that you "rediscovered" ("Oh man, I forgot how fun that song is to play" or "Wow, that has that tricky bit I'd forgotten")?

hard to nail it down to just one song as my choice changed over the tours.

With Ric I always enjoyed playing "Life"
With PT - Sound Of Muzak was good fun
With KC - ConstruKction of Light

Meanwhile some news on a project that I've been working on for the last 5 years. An album of Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary big band. (I'll post a sampler of it soon and see if you can work out what the song titles are). I'm sure most people will find it quite surprising. It will be released early April on Kscope Records. Over 14 guys play on this record and they're some of the best in the world.
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:47 PM
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Meanwhile some news on a project that I've been working on for the last 5 years. An album of Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary big band. (I'll post a sampler of it soon and see if you can work out what the song titles are). I'm sure most people will find it quite surprising. It will be released early April on Kscope Records. Over 14 guys play on this record and they're some of the best in the world.

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Now that is absolutely tantalising! Did you change up drum sizes / tunings to match the vibe?
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:55 AM
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Hey Gavin!

Firstly I'd just like to mention how amped I am for the release of your PT jazz album. I've been waiting for this since I heard Futile in big band form. And depending on how early in April you release it, it'll probably make a good birthday present for me no matter when it comes out. So excited.

Quick backstory on my question of the day. I was at a local show supporting a friend's band last week, and after they were done playing I went up to their drummer to compliment them and get a better look at a couple of their smaller effects cymbals. One of them he had inverted atop a crash. It was a 7" Stagg bell. To my surprise he told me he didn't really use it and asked if I wanted it. So I gave him $20 and went on my way. (2nd cheapest cymbal I've ever bought!) When I got it home, I mounted it up on my drum set and went to work analyzing which of your prototype crash bells it was closer to in sound because I intended to use it as such. To my surprise, it more closely sounded akin to your 9" crash bell despite its 7" size.

Here's where the question comes in. In my listening process, I came across one of your tunes with 05Ric, Sometime (quite a beautiful song, I must say). While intensely listening for your crash bells, I noticed on the second chorus that the cymbal you hit on beat two every bar did not sound like any cymbals I'm used to hearing from you. It didn't sound like your 7" or 9" crash bells, nor was it the 8" bell you use for Sailing, because you actually hit that one at the end of that chorus. This cymbal sounds splashy. So, I'm wondering if you take a listen back to that section if you could identify what cymbal I'm hearing on beat two every bar.

Here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZMJGsEdInM How convenient that this song was on Youtube. The second chorus starts at 4:36.

I included a couple images below. On the left is the 7" Stagg bell, and the right is an 8" EFX #1 (one of my favorite effects cymbals you've ever used, I just adore its sound). Physically, the Stagg bell looks fairly similar to your crash bells, as does the EFX #1 when inverted.
Also you'll see a picture of a Protean snare below. That's because I got one for Christmas. The 12x5 model, in fact. LOVING IT! :)

Thanks as always for answering, and for designing the most wonderful snare drum.
Cheers -- Peter
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:07 PM
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Hi Gavin.

1. Do you have a regular sleeping schedule?

2. Do you think having a routine and being disciplined is important in life?

3. How do I become a good listener?


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Hello Gavin,

I am curious as to how much autonomy you have when you play. For example, I have enjoyed your work with people like Dave Stewart/Barbara Gaskin (Green and Blue is a very nice album for a variety of reasons) and King Crimson. The Dave Stewart material seems to be very much fully composed whereas KC at times seems much more open. Does someone like Dave Stewart tell you what to play (in general or specific terms) or does he just say "Here's the demo, find something that works"? In contrast, I read in Bill Bruford's autobiography that nobody told him what to play in KC, he was just supposed to "know".

Thank you.

PS- Any plans for more Stewart/Gaskin work coming up?
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:34 PM
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Gavin,

I have two quick questions:

1. In the song False Start, what the heck is going on with the fill that leads into the polyrhythmic instrumental section near the end? After about 50 listens I figured out the palindrome-like sticking between toms and snare (S-S-T-S-T-S-S-T-T-S-T-S-T-T), but I still don't know the actual rhythmic pattern being played there. It's so weird and crazy...and I love it!

2. I know tons of people have already asked you about future plans with Porcupine Tree, and you've said there are none at the moment - but how much do you WANT to do another PT album? Do you usually just wait around until Steven Wilson gives you a call, or is it something you talk to the other guys about? For me, PT is the perfect vehicle for your style of drumming, and I'll be one of the first in line to jump on a new album if you put one out!

Thank you!
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Hi Lightbulb_Sun

what is your favourite pre In Absentia PT song to play?

Hatesong was always good fun - Buying New Soul, Even Less (we played the long unedited version a couple of times) and many others.

Hi alparrott

Out of all the stuff you've been doing the last few years (05Ric, PT, King Crimson), what have been your favorite songs? Any old gems pop up that you "rediscovered" ("Oh man, I forgot how fun that song is to play" or "Wow, that has that tricky bit I'd forgotten")?

hard to nail it down to just one song as my choice changed over the tours.

With Ric I always enjoyed playing "Life"
With PT - Sound Of Muzak was good fun
With KC - ConstruKction of Light

Meanwhile some news on a project that I've been working on for the last 5 years. An album of Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary big band. (I'll post a sampler of it soon and see if you can work out what the song titles are). I'm sure most people will find it quite surprising. It will be released early April on Kscope Records. Over 14 guys play on this record and they're some of the best in the world.
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Hi, just saw this thread and wanted to post.. i had played guitar for about 25 years but always wanted to drum and never did.. i saw Gavin on letterman about a year ago (i think, my memory is bad) and it just blew me away to the point that i bought a kit and have been practicing for about 4 months now.. Drums are so much more enjoyable in every single way it makes me wish i had never picked up a guitar. And drummers tend to be the nicest people to talk to!

So thanks Gavin for giving me that kick start finally :)
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Hello, Gavin!

I know you loved Art Farmer as you were growing up and still do. What do you think was the most influential album on your playing? Do you recall which one you listened to the most?

Also, everybody, a short sampler of Gavin's new album has been released! It's brilliant! I think I heard Futile, Hatesong, Halo and Cheating the Polygraph in there. Great stuff! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCPiNby-DY

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Hi keep it simple

Now that is absolutely tantalising! Did you change up drum sizes / tunings to match the vibe?

I kept my own voice pretty much as the 'vibes' on the record are quite diverse.

Hi K_HiHats

Here's where the question comes in. In my listening process, I came across one of your tunes with 05Ric, Sometime (quite a beautiful song, I must say). While intensely listening for your crash bells, I noticed on the second chorus that the cymbal you hit on beat two every bar did not sound like any cymbals I'm used to hearing from you. It didn't sound like your 7" or 9" crash bells, nor was it the 8" bell you use for Sailing, because you actually hit that one at the end of that chorus. This cymbal sounds splashy. So, I'm wondering if you take a listen back to that section if you could identify what cymbal I'm hearing on beat two every bar.

I believe it was another 8" prototype alternative to the "Sailing" bell. Thanks for listening so closely. Hope you enjoy the new album in April.

Hi anokus

1. Do you have a regular sleeping schedule?

yes every night. At least 8 hours.

2. Do you think having a routine and being disciplined is important in life?

Depends what you want to achieve. If you want to really improve with practise then I would say you're going to have to get disciplined with yourself.

3. How do I become a good listener?

That's a big question. Try to notice small details and how they work inside the music.

Hi Notbob

[i]I am curious as to how much autonomy you have when you play. For example, I have enjoyed your work with people like Dave Stewart/Barbara Gaskin (Green and Blue is a very nice album for a variety of reasons) and King Crimson. The Dave Stewart material seems to be very much fully composed whereas KC at times seems much more open. Does someone like Dave Stewart tell you what to play (in general or specific terms) or does he just say "Here's the demo, find something that works"?

It's been a long time since "Green and Blue" but my memory of it (like most of the sessions I did with Dave and Barbara) was that there would be a drum machine demo that I would base my drumming ideas off. That is to say that some of the patterns might be important to the song - so obviously I would copy them but put my own small embellishments on them. Other times there were sections where they wanted me to create something new or different. The end section of "New Jerusalem" is a good example of that - where they invited me to create a big rhythmic illusion.

HI SnareSpectre

1. In the song False Start, what the heck is going on with the fill that leads into the polyrhythmic instrumental section near the end? After about 50 listens I figured out the palindrome-like sticking between toms and snare (S-S-T-S-T-S-S-T-T-S-T-S-T-T), but I still don't know the actual rhythmic pattern being played there. It's so weird and crazy...and I love it!

Actually the rhythmic attitude of it is a lot more interesting than just the order of the notes. It has a slight "Latin" leaning to the timing of it. A bit like the way a timbale player would play a fill.

Hi Lightbulb_Sun

I know you loved Art Farmer as you were growing up and still do. What do you think was the most influential album on your playing? Do you recall which one you listened to the most?

"Crawl Space" and "Big Blues" (with Jim Hall).

Cheers
Gavin

...and for the folks who haven't heard it yet here's a sampler of my new album featuring Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary brass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCPiNby-DY
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Hi keep it simple

Now that is absolutely tantalising! Did you change up drum sizes / tunings to match the vibe?

I kept my own voice pretty much as the 'vibes' on the record are quite diverse.


...and for the folks who haven't heard it yet here's a sampler of my new album featuring Porcupine Tree songs arranged for modern contemporary brass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCPiNby-DY
Ok, that's my first listen, & I like it very much. Of course, huge skill from all players hits you in the face, & although arrangements are complexed, it doesn't come across as being complicated for complication's sake.

Purely from my personal perspective, I would like to have heard some bigger / more open drum sounds in places, although I understand the desire for a more compressed / focussed approach to carry the number of notes in some parts, & to sit with the staccato vibe of the brass.

A deeply impressive piece of music making Gavin, & brave too :)
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