Need help convincing parents about bass pedals.

I've been playing in bands, including several paying gigs, for the past eleven years using an old secondhand Pearl single-chain double pedal. Sure I've coveted a newer pedal with bells, whistles, and perhaps another chain, but the truth is, I have this one tuned very well, it's smooth and light, and I do very well with it. It cost me $125 used.

Unless your pedal is somehow not mechanically sound (and by that I mean screws are stripped, beaters won't hold in the shaft, springs are played out), or you happen to be in a serious band (and by serious, I mean on the verge of a recording contract), I suggest you bide your time and mow some lawns.

My parents started me off with an old, distressed drum kit they found in someone's basement. I worked for several summers and then got a job after high school. Every bit of pro-level gear I have, I paid for myself (and that has become a LOT of kit). It certainly teaches you the value of work, and makes playing the kit a lot more satisfying.
 
I am a parent, was a kid, and am a drummer. You don't need 600 dollar pedals. Buy 300.00 pedals and when you can afford your own buy 600.00 pedals. Axis pedals are not going to make you better

The net is full of good used drum gear. Seek and ye' shall find.
 
yes why not try finding a used set of dd pedals, belive me the axis pedals are good but most of their draw is hype. as was said their are many great pedals out, for instance i have the yamaha direct drives , they work just as well as the axis pedals and i paid half the price. dont be a slave to gear just cause your fav drummer plays it.
 
Oh theyre doin great. Hypothetical Tom seems to be having a hard time with his studies, but nothing a few hypothetical lashings with the hypothetical belt cant hypothetically fix. Its all hypothetical though.
You're a Hypothetical child abuser!
 
You're a Hypothetical child abuser!

Just what is it about Britt's and abuse of the backside? It can't all be Monty Python.

I've been playing over 35 years. I could buy any pedal that exist. I play a modest priced Iron Cobra! I have tried numerous pedals including the Axis. It didn't make me a better player! So I didn't buy it!
It would be a waste of money for me to buy such an expensive pedal. Getting a few more BPMs wont make you a better drummer. For $600 you could buy two or three excellent cymbals, or perhaps a great snare! That is something that makes you sound better and inspires you to play better.
Pedal playing is mostly technique! Any decent quality pedal will go fast if it is played correctly. You don't have to spend a lot to play fast.
I would like to add that I bought my Cobra used. I buy used whenever I can. Same with cymbals. I always look for used gear, and I wait for a good price.

Right on! Pearl's 120P, I think that's the right model, is $60 at guitar center and is one of the quickest pedals I've ever played. It's quicker then it's heavier duty version, it's just not going to last as long, but at that price having a spare won't break the bank.. Another quick pedal is the Yamaha Dragon which has been redesigned and the old model can still be found at great closeout prices.
 
Just what is it about Britt's and abuse of the backside? It can't all be Monty Python.
Im not sure that I want to go there! LOL!
When I was teen I wanted a $2000 kit. (that's early 70s dollars). My father told me to save the cash. I worked all summer for 50 to 80 hours a week at min wage. I saved the money. I ordered the kit. My father then gave me the cash to pay for the kit. I still have that kit. It means so much to me that I will never sell it. You appreciate things more when you work for them! My father taught me an important life lesson.
 
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maybe a little tangential

but I found those younger days when I couldn't afford things to be a great teacher -- I don't mean in character or the value of money or such things.
I mean creatively, I mean getting focused on using what you can lay your hands on b/c that's...well that's what have to work with...and wringing every last bit out of that stuff.
and when it's wrung dry - "cheat" by figuring out another approach
 
I think you guys are being hypercricitcal of the hypothetical parents, perhaps the hypothetical child is hyperkinetic or has hyperthyroidism -- a hypodermic of Thorazine all around should get us back on track
 
Double bass pedals have very limited applications in all but a few genres; mostly, other musicians tend to find them disruptive when played. If I were you, I'd get a DW5000 single pedal used on eBay for $75 and invest the rest in lessons.

I have to disagree with this. But i do think AXIS pedals are pretty specialised and are only used by a certain number of people. Just use what you've got. You don't need loads of amazing stuff right now, that's for when you get a job and stuff.
 
I think you guys are being hypercricitcal of the hypothetical parents, perhaps the hypothetical child is hyperkinetic or has hyperthyroidism -- a hypodermic of Thorazine all around should get us back on track

I think he has a hyperactive ego and a hypoactive sense of money.
 
i have a crappy PDP double bass pedal, and i want an upgrade.
I like your reasoning... that was a very techincal explanation of how kick pedals work... but... as some others here have said... gear doesn't make the drummer.
Also, I wouldn't pay $600 for a pedal for my kid either.
How long have you been playing drums?
 
I have an Iron Cobra Jr single pedal. Not even a real IC. Bought it used; I don't remember how much exactly, but it was in good shape and had a traditional felt beater. It's my go-to pedal.

Bass drum speed comes more from the drummer than the pedal. Work on your leg strength and the heel-toe technique. Buy another pedal if you must, but don't spend 600 dollars. Give your money to me if you're just going to throw it away :)
 
Save your money; get yourself a decent used single pedal (DW5000, Iron Cobra, a good Yamaha or Gibraltar) and get that right foot going. Don't be one of those try-hard, overcompensating fugga-dugga kids. If you can't rock out heavy of fast enough with one foot then you don't know what you're doing. Check out Corrosion Of Conformity's record In The Arms Of God and take a long hard listen to the tubs. While you're at it, anything with Jean Paul Gaster (Clutch, Bakerton Group, King Hobo, Five Horse Johnson's The Mystery Spot), Bill Ward's work with Sabbath and, naturally, JHB. All playing singles and on 26" drums. Now go...
 
Save your money; get yourself a decent used single pedal (DW5000, Iron Cobra, a good Yamaha or Gibraltar) and get that right foot going. Don't be one of those try-hard, overcompensating fugga-dugga kids. If you can't rock out heavy of fast enough with one foot then you don't know what you're doing. Check out Corrosion Of Conformity's record In The Arms Of God and take a long hard listen to the tubs. While you're at it, anything with Jean Paul Gaster (Clutch, Bakerton Group, King Hobo, Five Horse Johnson's The Mystery Spot), Bill Ward's work with Sabbath and, naturally, JHB. All playing singles and on 26" drums. Now go...

Hey let's not start a single vs double pedal debate, i'd like to see you play half the songs i listen to with one foot mate.
 
I am a little inclined to agree with your parents. I understand your explanation and understand the need of a good bass pedal (are PDP's really so bad?), but I doubt 600$ will buy you a better pedal than 400$ or even less! I have a mid-range pedal myself, a Pearl P-122TW (Powershifter?) twin, and it competes with any top-of-the-line pedal I played.
 
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