harryconway
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..... an offset or Schleshmen pedal (though I've yet to demo one fully, the brief meeting I had with one was quite promising however)
I sold my Off-Set and bought a Sleishman.
..... an offset or Schleshmen pedal (though I've yet to demo one fully, the brief meeting I had with one was quite promising however)
Bill Bachman plays a somewhat symmetrical kit, with snare and hats in the middle.
I do both open and crossed, but seems more natural to me to play hats and ride with my right hand.
Edit to acknowledge the OP refers to Mr. Bachman's Speedy Hat remote stand, so they already are aware...
Thanks for the mention! Here's a quick video of me recording some prog stuff with my set-up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erOMibiB4Ms
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And, if you're interested here's the trailer for the album (the 4th song sample or so is the one sampled in the previous video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wte2RNEXHqg
these pedals would not work for me, I keep my 1st floor tom right next to my leg. that pedal would be under it.I sold my Off-Set and bought a Sleishman.
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I think to answer your last question we would have to compare playing styles and determine which one is more efficient. And I'm sure you know that that is always a losing game.
Besides, the style of music played creates many different possibilities and makes the analysis very complicated. Not to mention the fact that any drummer would play better with what he is comfortable with.
I would however make this statement. For me the hi hat needs to be very close to the snare so I can play complex patterns with the hi hat and snare.
In the next few weeks as I play around with some new set up ideas, thanks to your thread here, I may be able to video tape my playing using some different set up configurations.
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I can see you wanting to do this but why is it important to you that everybody does this?
It's cool, I'm not out to upset anyone. The reason I personally don't want to re-learn is the benefits don't seem to outweigh the expenditure. I'd rather put my energies into playing the music deeper, listening deeper, feeling deeper. The mechanics of it all....I pretty much already have a system that works for me, and I don't feel limited. I play open when it makes more sense to. My feeling is I don't want to expend years or however long it takes to get back to where I am already. That to me is not moving ahead, that's changing course midstream. More interested in the music than the mechanics. This falls under the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" category in my head.
But man have at it. If it ignites your burners, that's a great thing.
So what about people learning drums for the first time?
It's cool, I'm not out to upset anyone. The reason I personally don't want to re-learn is the benefits don't seem to outweigh the expenditure. I'd rather put my energies into playing the music deeper, listening deeper, feeling deeper. The mechanics of it all....I pretty much already have a system that works for me, and I don't feel limited. I play open when it makes more sense to. My feeling is I don't want to expend years or however long it takes to get back to where I am already. That to me is not moving ahead, that's changing course midstream. More interested in the music than the mechanics. This falls under the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" category in my head.
But man have at it. If it ignites your burners, that's a great thing.
so please stop saying I'm trying to force people to do this.
It does read that way though mate.....at least it has to me.
Not trying to be a prick, but I've deliberately stayed out of this thread because it's comes across as excessively preachy and one sided. Thought it may just be me.....but it appears I may not be alone. Just some food for thought.
But as to the wider question. No. I don't believe that tradition has been holding drummers back for 100+ years. Just look what some guys manage to achieve.
Does Mangini's set up make him a "better" player than Vinnie? More creative? Does it actually allow him to highlight Vinnie's short comings? Or are they just different, yet equally enthralling in their own way? Does Mangini's set up show us what's possible for one man and Vinnie's allows us to see what's possible for another?
The only thing that would hold drummers back is a lack of creativity in their own right. Whether that be the lack of creativity to expand on their ideas on a traditional kit......or the lack of creativity to adapt the kit to suit their own purposes and individual style. Either way, a "one size fits all" approach is not necessarily the best way forward for all players, all the time.
And personally, I'm glad for it. It's what allows some guys to shine....regardless of how their kit is set up.
I feel drumming needs some progress